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Rubin Abdi
Heyo. Our electric strikes for our door and gate like to grow soft (not latching) after about 6 - 8 months. Any spaces have recommendations on strikes? Thanks!

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Re: [hackerspaces] Electric strikes

justin corwin
At Crashspace we use a Hentech door strike, and haven't had any problems with it for at least the last two years since I've been doing facilities. 

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Heyo. Our electric strikes for our door and gate like to grow soft (not latching) after about 6 - 8 months. Any spaces have recommendations on strikes? Thanks!

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Re: [hackerspaces] Electric strikes

Volatile Compound
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Not knowing what types you're using, the environmental conditions
they're located in, frequency of use, etc., I'll chime in with the
following:

- Grease / otherwise lubricate them regularly per manufacturers'
recommendations.

- You might have to modify the above based on climate and location.

- Check for misalignment in frames, hinges, tracks, etc.

- Check for settling in the building, which might be throwing off the
alignment of the frames, hinges, tracks, etc.

- Do you have hydraulic, pneumatic, or spring-driven returns on them?
Check those.  They may be tired and need attention.

Out of curiosity, you mention that this happens after 6 to 8 months or
so.  It sounds like this may be a recurring problem.  What steps are
taken to fix it when it does happen?

- skroo.

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> Heyo. Our electric strikes for our door and gate like to grow soft (not
> latching) after about 6 - 8 months. Any spaces have recommendations on
> strikes? Thanks!
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Re: [hackerspaces] Electric strikes

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On 14 January 2016 at 20:28, Volatile Compound <[hidden email]> wrote:
Out of curiosity, you mention that this happens after 6 to 8 months or so.  It sounds like this may be a recurring problem.  What steps are taken to fix it when it does happen?

People have attempted to lubricate them, failed, then simply replaced them. We've gone through 4 or 5 per door at this point.

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Re: [hackerspaces] Electric strikes

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What brand/model are you buying?

I install electronic locks as part of my job.

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Out of curiosity, you mention that this happens after 6 to 8 months or so.  It sounds like this may be a recurring problem.  What steps are taken to fix it when it does happen?

People have attempted to lubricate them, failed, then simply replaced them. We've gone through 4 or 5 per door at this point.

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Re: [hackerspaces] Electric strikes

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Cool.  So which ones are you using?

Knowing which particular piece of hardware you're having trouble with
would make it a *lot* easier to give recommendations.

- skroo.

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> On 14 January 2016 at 20:28, Volatile Compound
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>     Out of curiosity, you mention that this happens after 6 to 8 months
>     or so.  It sounds like this may be a recurring problem.  What steps
>     are taken to fix it when it does happen?
>
>
> People have attempted to lubricate them, failed, then simply replaced
> them. We've gone through 4 or 5 per door at this point.
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Re: [hackerspaces] Electric strikes

Arclight
My advice, from helping with about 20 installs of the Open Access
system we build:

Don't buy cheap door hardware.  Import electric strikes are OK for
low-abuse, low-traffic applications like interior doors and cabinets.
For what you're describing, you really want a good,grade 1 commecial
strike from a vendor like Trine, Assa-Abloy, Stanley Commercial, etc.
Unfortunately, these often go for $300-500 new.  Fortunately, used and
surplus units come up all the time on eBay for modest prices.
Sometimes you can get a whole flat-rate box of used locks and strikes
for $50.

Also, if you have a commercial-style door with a mortise lock: There's
probably an electric lock available for it. Electric locks are easier
to install, and don't leave as much stuff exposed to the elements.

Cheers,

Arclight
23b Shop

Open Access Project:
http://accxproducts.com/wiki

On Thu, Jan 14, 2016 at 11:18 PM, Volatile Compound
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> Cool.  So which ones are you using?
>
> Knowing which particular piece of hardware you're having trouble with would
> make it a *lot* easier to give recommendations.
>
> - skroo.
>
> On 1/14/16 8:41 PM, Rubin Abdi wrote:
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>>
>> On 14 January 2016 at 20:28, Volatile Compound
>> <[hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]>> wrote:
>>
>>     Out of curiosity, you mention that this happens after 6 to 8 months
>>     or so.  It sounds like this may be a recurring problem.  What steps
>>     are taken to fix it when it does happen?
>>
>>
>> People have attempted to lubricate them, failed, then simply replaced
>> them. We've gone through 4 or 5 per door at this point.
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Re: [hackerspaces] Electric strikes

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On 15/01/16 08:52, Arclight wrote:
> My advice, from helping with about 20 installs of the Open Access
> system we build:
>
> Don't buy cheap door hardware.  Import electric strikes are OK for
> low-abuse, low-traffic applications like interior doors and cabinets.
> For what you're describing, you really want a good,grade 1 commecial
> strike from a vendor like Trine, Assa-Abloy, Stanley Commercial,

All of these brands require importing... Depending on where you live.


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Re: [hackerspaces] Electric strikes

Arclight
I should clarify: Low-cost electric strikes from no-name Asian vendors
(i.e. the ones that routinely sell on eBay or Amazon for USD 10-35)
aren't suitable for heavy use.  You really want one of the U.S. or
European-made Grade I electric locks or strikes.

Also, electric locks are often easier to install and require building
modification than strikes.

Arclight

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> On 15/01/16 08:52, Arclight wrote:
>> My advice, from helping with about 20 installs of the Open Access
>> system we build:
>>
>> Don't buy cheap door hardware.  Import electric strikes are OK for
>> low-abuse, low-traffic applications like interior doors and cabinets.
>> For what you're describing, you really want a good,grade 1 commecial
>> strike from a vendor like Trine, Assa-Abloy, Stanley Commercial,
>
> All of these brands require importing... Depending on where you live.
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Re: [hackerspaces] Electric strikes

Eric Michaud-2
If this is still an issue I would highly recommend contacting https://securitysnobs.com. Either by phone or email. They don't list electric strikes on their site but they can source practically anything if you can explain what your setup is and they don't recommend crap. They also have a booth a DefCon every year for awhile now.

On Thu, Jan 21, 2016 at 8:32 AM, Arclight <[hidden email]> wrote:
I should clarify: Low-cost electric strikes from no-name Asian vendors
(i.e. the ones that routinely sell on eBay or Amazon for USD 10-35)
aren't suitable for heavy use.  You really want one of the U.S. or
European-made Grade I electric locks or strikes.

Also, electric locks are often easier to install and require building
modification than strikes.

Arclight

On Thu, Jan 21, 2016 at 2:43 AM, webmind <[hidden email]> wrote:
> On 15/01/16 08:52, Arclight wrote:
>> My advice, from helping with about 20 installs of the Open Access
>> system we build:
>>
>> Don't buy cheap door hardware.  Import electric strikes are OK for
>> low-abuse, low-traffic applications like interior doors and cabinets.
>> For what you're describing, you really want a good,grade 1 commecial
>> strike from a vendor like Trine, Assa-Abloy, Stanley Commercial,
>
> All of these brands require importing... Depending on where you live.
>
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